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Men, Abuse, and Me

December 19, 2003

I feel like I need to/want to address some of the issues that came up here last week with my posts about abuse and the subsequent comments which I felt were inappropriate. I didn't want to explain myself any further last week, because I didn't feel like explaining my viewpoint to a certain individual or anyone coming over from his site was productive or worthwhile, but I do feel like it's worth my while to process this stuff, and it might be worthwhile for me to process it out loud.

This might get long and rambly and, starting out, I'm not even sure what my point will be or if I have a point. I have spent the past week or so trying to sort out the emotions behind the "discussion" last week - and really trying to figure out if this is a safe place to even discuss my personal experience within the context of an abusive relationship. Or if it's even ethical for me to discuss my abusive relationship, considering you are only hearing my end of it and not the "other side" as it were. And there is plenty that I need to say and clarify about that - at least introspectively - and since I dragged the readers of my blog into it, I might as well say it out loud.

First of all, I need to state something so that it's clear and absolute. I have never asserted that there is never a situation in which a man is abused by a woman. It would be ludicrous for me to state this or even really think it. I have never known a man to be abused by a woman, but that doesn't mean that abused men do not exist.

However, I do harbor a great deal of suspicion for men who press the issue of the battered man as if it deserves equal time/attention/funding as the issue of battered women AS A SOCIAL ISSUE. Obviously, on a personal level, abuse does not discriminate based on gender, but when you add the institution of sexism to an abusive relationship, you end up with a great deal of imbalance that simply isn't part of the equation when discussing battered men.

So, yes, anecdotally speaking, I feel extreme empathy for any man who has been beaten or otherwise abused by a woman. And I'm sure I would comiserate...if I actually knew any men who could honestly tell me that this was their reality. Fortunately, I do not. Instead, I hear from men who want to tell me that I am somehow denying their experience as ostensibly non-abused men by focusing only on my personal experience of abuse. It's ridiculous. I mean, I can ALMOST see this being an issue if I were to speak about abuse in the abstract, although for the reasons stated above, it's not an issue as far as I'm concerned...but to be accused of denying the existence of the battered male when I am discussing my own personal abusive relationship is at best absolutely absurd. There are no abused men in my relationship, although my husband would like you to think there is.

Speaking of my husband, I have for years debated about the ethics of posting potentially disparaging remarks about him in my blog. Obviously, no human being wants to be known as the "abusive ex spouse" or "the jackass I had kids with" or whatever else I might conjure up in a negative space. My conclusion, after years of arguing with myself about this, is that *I* own my experiences, and I am allowed to write about the experiences that are mine. The problem with this is that there is a very important dynamic in our relationship which is caused by a reality that my husband faces, and by intentionally not discussing that dynamic or reality (because it is not an experience that I feel I own) I probably come across as less than sympathetic when it comes to my husband. You, dear reader, will just have to trust me when I tell you I don't lack sympathy for the father of my children. The problem is that having sympathy for him was getting in the way of me creating a healthy household for myself and my children. Sympathy was not enough to make things better. I don't hate my husband, and I don't wish him dead, and I don't wish him out of my life. I simply wish (probably unrealistically) for him to stop using manipulative and controlling tactics to evade responsibility for his actions (or non-actions.) That frustration is there, and it builds up, and if it doesn't get expressed - it causes a tremendous amount of anger. People who see only that dimension of my relationship with him are probably going to think that I walk around here like a ticking timebomb while he is here. I don't. Most of the time, I'm able to interact with him calmly and cordially. I know, too, that he loves it when I don't, because it enables him to tell me that I'm irrational or "too" emotional or whatever else.

I found this passage in the book interesting, as I can relate to it to a great extent:

How Society Adopts the Abuser's Perspective

Almost anyone can become an ally of an abusive man by inadvertantly adopting his perspective. People usually don't even notice that they are supporting abusive thinking, or they wouldn't do it. Let's examine some of the most common forms of accidental support:

  • The person who says to the abused woman: "You should show him some compassion even if he has done bad things. Don't forget that he's a human being too."
  • I have almost never worked with an abused woman who overlooked her partner's humanity. The problem is the reverse: He forgets her humanity. Acknowledging his abusiveness and speaking forcefully and honestly about how he has hurt her is indispensable to her recovery. It is the abuser's perspective that she is being mean to him by speaking bluntly about the damage he has done. To suggest ot her that his need for compassion should come before her right to live free from abuse is consistent with the abuser's outlook. I have repeatedly seen the tendency among friends and acquaintances of an abused woman to feel that it is their responsibility to make sure that she realizes what a great person he really is inside - in other words, to stay focused on his needs rather than her own, which is a mistake. People who wish to help an abused woman should instead by telling her what a good person she is.

    [...]

  • The person who says: "These abuse activists are anti-male."
  • How is it anti-male to be against abuse? Are we supposed to pretend we don't notice that hte overwhelming majority of abusers are male? This accusation parallels the abuser's words to his partner: "The reason you think I'm abusive is because you have a problem with men*!" One of the best counters to this piece of side-tracking is to point out how many men are active in combating the abuse of women. Remember allso that abused women are the sisters, daughters, mothers, and friends of men; mens lives are affeted by abuse, because it happens to women we know and care about.

    *Yes, I have heard that exact quote from L.

    Another way L's abuse manifests is in the way he attempts or has attempted to manipulate me based on my strong beliefs. For years, I allowed him to stay in the home because there was an implied threat that if I split up with him, I would be unable to homeschool the children. And, in fact, after I went to work on the day I told him that I was completely serious about breaking up, he told Monk that Monk "was going to be starting 2nd grade, and mama will pack you a lunch, and you will get to play on the playground with all of the other kids." I came home to hear this part of the story from Monk, as well as an emphatic "And I'm on dad's side, mom. I want to go to school now."

    Earlier that day, I had actually asked Monk if he was satisfied with his experience as a homeschool. I wasn't threatening or leading him. I was honestly curious if he felt his needs were being filled. He told me emphatically that he never wanted to go to school. Ever.

    L has also used my political beliefs as a means to attempt to manipulate me. He criticized me for "dragging the state into our relationship" when I told him I wanted a divorce. And he justifies much of his irresponsibility by saying that he thought we lived an "alternative lifestyle" in which this particular kind of irresponsibility is acceptable.

    Of course, I believe I have told the story of Cole's birth, where L refused to take Monk out of the house when I was in labor. I was trying to get some rest, and Monk was punching and kicking and slapping me because I would not play with him. I pleaded with L to please take him away so I could get some rest, because I was in labor. L stretched out on the bed, closed his eyes, and fell asleep, leaving me to fend for myself. I remember I called a friend in tears, begging for her to come and take care of Monk so I could rest up for the birth. She was planning to come over right from work, and for some reason I told L that I was expecting someone to come get Monk at 5:30. At 5:15, L got out of bed and took Monk out to go buy some shoes, so when my friend got there, they were gone. This is very much the same kind of abuse that L demonstrates when he refuses to stay here and watch the kids when I am sick. I spent practically my entire vacation in bed, and he left 1-2 hours early each day...because I was here in the house and he felt "uncomfortable" watching the kids with me here - even though most of the time I was curled up under the covers fighting whatever illness had taken over.

    In fact, it is the story of how L acted when I was in labor with Cole that I go back to again and again as the tangible evidence of his abusive behavior towards me. It's not the only evidence of abuse, but it's the only tangible evidence. It's the only clear, unobfuscated anecdote I can relate to people to help them to understand what it is like to live with L.

    Other than that, L is pretty much a textbook (according to this book) "Water Torturer:"

    The Water Torturer's style proves that anger doesn't cause abuse. He can assault his partner psychologically without even raising his voice. He tends to stay calm in arguments, using his own evenness as a weapon to push her over the edge. He often has a superior or contemptuous grin on his face, smug and self-assured. He uses a repertoire of aggressive conversational tactics at low volume, including sarcasm, derision - such as openly laughing at her - mimicking her voice, and cruel, cutting remarks. [...]he tends to take things she has said and twist them beyond recognition to make her appear absurd [...]He gets to his partner through a slow but steady stream of low-level emotional assaults[...]He is relentless in his quiet derision and meanness.

    The impact on a woman of all these subtle tactics is that either her blood temperature rises to a boil or she feels stupid and inferior, or some combination of the two. In an argument, she may end up yelling in frustration, leaving the room crying, or sinking into silence. The Water Torturer then says, "See, you're the abusive one, not me. You're the one who's yelling and refusing to talk things out rationally. I wasn't even raising my voice. It's impossible to reason with you."

    The psychological effects of living with the Water Torturer can be severe. His tactics can be difficult to identify, so they sink in deeply. Women can find it difficult not to blame themselves for their reactions to what their partner does if they don't even know what to call it. When someone slaps you in the face, you know you've been slapped. But when a woman feels psychologically assaulted, with little idea why, after an argument with the Water Torturer, she may turn her frustration inward. How do you seek support from a friend, for example, when you don't know how to describe what is going wrong?

    [...]If you are involved with a Water Torturer, you may struggle for years trying to figure out what is happening. You may feel that you overreact to his behavior and that he isn't really so bad. But the effects of his control and contempt have crept up on you over the years. If you finally leave him, you may experience periods of delayed rage, as you become conscious of how quietly but deathly oppressive he was.

    [...]

      The central attitudes driving the Water Torturer are:
    • You are crazy. You fly off the handle over nothing.
    • I can easily convince other people that you're the one who is messed up
    • As long as I'm calm, you can't call anything I do abusive, no matter how cruel
    • I know exactly how to get under your skin

    I also found some of the characteristics of "The Victim" familiar, and perhaps that is why I'm so suspicious of men who press the issue of the battered male:

    When the Victim joins an abuser group, his story tends to go like this: "I put up with my partner's mistreatment of me for years, and I never fought back or even tried to defend myself. But I finally couldn't take it anymore, and I started to give her back a little taste of what she was doing to me. So now I've been labeled abusive. Women are allowed to do these things and nobody cares, but as soon as a man does it he's a pariah."

    This line of reasoning many times develops into a discussion of how men are the victims of women overall in society, because women run the world. This is a startling distortion, given which gender actually dominates almost all legislatures, police departments, judgeships, businesses, and so on ad nauseum. When I point out this reality to the Victim, he describes a kind of paranoid fantasy in which women are behind the scenes secretly pulling the strings, largely by getting men to feel sorry for them. His capacity for turning things into their oposites in this way is a central cause of his abusiveness.

    One of the things L told me when things really started going downhill for us was that he was tired of my shit, and tired of me treating him the way I was treating him (although in the three years I earnestly asked for a clear definition of how he was being mistreated, he was never able to come up with one) and that he was just not going to take it anymore. He asserted that he had done his best to be nice and accommodating to me, but that he felt he no longer owed me that. And, poof, from that point on he basically refused to go out of his way to do anything to make my life any easier, in spite of the fact that I was basically in a position where I couldn't NOT make his life easier. If that makes any sense. In other words, he knew that if he abdicated responsibility with regard to the children, I was not going to let it harm them, and i would pick up the slack. I would buy food. I would pay the bills. I would continue to be the responsible adult because someone had to take care of the children. Basically, the way I see it, L invented a reason to be resentful of me - a reason that might very well have been based on an actual wrongdoing on my part, but which remained undisclosed ("If you don't know by now, there's no hope that you will ever know." he would say. And yet, he refused to leave the relationship because one day I "might straighten up and start acting right.") so I was not able to apologize or correct my behavior - and he used that as an excuse to act like an ass towards me, regardless of how clearly I expressed that I felt his behavior towards me was inappropriate, and regardless of my attempts at trying to rectify our problems with each other.

    I also have to say that I do not feel that all men are abusive. At the same time, many men, when I have spoken with about my relationship with L and the passages from this book that I am relating to, have responded by saying that they see themselves in those passages, and it makes them uncomfortable. I have to say that there are some parts of the book that I see myself in, as well. I think the key is power, and how power is handled in a relationship.

    For instance, in my relationship with L, for the past 3 years, I have been the sole income-earner in our household. I've been wary of this, because I believe this places a lot of unasked-for power into my hands. However, I have not desired to be the sole income-earner, and I have told L many times that he needed to earn some money to help the household get back into financial shape. His excuse has always been that my schedule doesn't allow for him to get a job (I work evenings) but I have made it clear that I have several options for babysitters and could make it work. He also claims that he does not wish to leave cole with babysitters until he's "whatever age is about a year past the age he is currently." This would be an admirable excuse if all of my babysitting options weren't personal friends of mine who I trust beyond a doubt with my kids, and if the kids would be in any childcare situation for more than an hour or so a day.

    At any rate, it turns out that all of my fears of being in a position of power in my relationship with L were totally unfounded. In actuality, L is in a position of power, because he is the one with the ultimate ability to abdicate his parental responsibilities, but to continue to hold the threat over my head that he can somehow prove that I am an inadequate parent. This is an unstated and probably unrealistic threat, but it exists nonetheless. And I find it's a fairly consistent dynamic in the lives of single mama friends of mine. Everyone seems to, at one point or another, freak out about the possibility of having their custodial rights challenged or taken away by the biological father of the children. This is a particular challenge for my mama friends who are poor and/or leading alternative lifestyles of one sort or another.

    Believe it or not, the book had something to say about this, as well, in the chapter called "Abusive Men as Parents" in the section titled "The Abuser's Tactics in Custody Disputes:"

    Appealing to Popular Misconceptions Several misleading arguments appear repeatedly in statements that abusers make during family court litigation. First is the claim that fathers are widely discriminated against by family courts in custody disputes. The research actually shows the opposite, that in fact fathers have been at a distinct advantage in custody battles in the United States since the late 1970's, when the maternal preference went out of vogue. Next often comes the myth that children of divorce fare better in joint custody, when the research shows overwhelmingly that they in fact do worse, except in those cases where their parents remain on good terms after the divorce and can co-parent cooperatively - which is almost impossible for a woman to do with an abusive ex-partner. Abusive men also assert falsely that there is a rampant problem of women's false allegations of abuse, that child support obligations are unfairly high, that domestic abuse is irrelevant to custody decisions, and that men are abused in relationships as much as women.

    I think I'm going to have to end this for now, and perhaps take it up later. I'm feeling a little exposed after what happened last week, but I also feel like I have a lot to tell. I feel like I am lucky to have been able to get out of my relationship with L with relatively little damage. I think my financial position, and the fact that I was already earning an income that I knew could at least mostly cover all of the living expenses here is what really saved my ass. I worry for the mamas who are in relationships in which they basically live at the mercy of their abusive partners. Even in my position, it took years to really gather the strength to leave the situation.

    Before I close this, I need to vent a little anger at some people who I feel were insensitive (and continue to be insenstive) to the issues I am discussing here. One person in particular, who I had really assumed was someone who was at least a good acquaintance if not a friend, said some fairly awful things about me behind my back WHILE I WAS CHATTING WITH HIM on AIM. I thought that was pretty crappy. I also resent being belittled, and having it implied that my problems with my relationship with L were somehow the result of immaturity on my part or an inability on my part to "compromise" or truly "love." Believe it or not, I do know what love feels like, and I know what love looks like, and I know what love IS. I hope the person who said these things is not put in a situation where he has to actually communicate on a face to face level with a woman who is processing an abusive relationship, because I worry that he is capable of doing some severe damage. In addition, there were several people who actually diagnosed me with a mental illness for setting boundaries in my space about what I felt was appropriate in the context of my processing. This pissed me off not only because it was potentially harmful to me (I was, however, relieved to find that it had a relatively minor affect on me) but also because I know for a fact that there are women reading this blog who identify and relate very strongly with what I am writing about, and for a person to feel entitled to come here and invalidate what I am relating and then to proceed to call me crazy for voicing objection to this invalidation is just absolutely the very definition of abuse. It is damaging because it discourages women from speaking their truth about their experiences. And, basically, it just sucks all around. I am not saying these things to start another argument. I am saying these things because they need to be said.

    I want to also explain a little something about me. I don't fuck around with people who I don't give a shit about. In other words, if I get from you that you are worthy of my time and will actually respect and listen to my explanations of things, I will give you my respect. I'm so pleased to be an adult and to be allowed to make these decisions for myself. If you have somehow indicated that you are not worthy of my respect (HINT: typically people who say racist/sexist/heterosexist shit are NOT worthy of my respect or time) I will probably not be very nice to you. It's just the way it goes. I don't have time to politely explain myself to every idiot who wanders in here demanding explanation and respect. If I feel you are beyond hope, I'm not going to waste my valuable time or yours attempting to live up to your warped idea of what I "owe" to you.

    And, too, I want to thank those of you who were supportive of the way I handled those interactions. There were many who voiced and displayed support in numerous ways, both publically and privately, and I appreciate it.

    I'll probably write more on this topic later, and I want to dig up some links to some of the heavier subjects in this post, but I really need to get some sleep. I hope everyone is having a good night/morning/afternoon. Until I post again...take care.

    Posted at December 19, 2003 12:20 AM

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    In actuality, L is in a position of power, because he is the one with the ultimate ability to abdicate his parental responsibilities, but to continue to hold the threat over my head that he can somehow prove that I am an inadequate parent. This is an unstated and probably unrealistic threat, but it exists nonetheless.

    Are you speaking for me? Get out of my head! This is my experience to a T.

    Posted by: Ms Lauren at December 19, 2003 9:33 AM

    This is your space and what you say NEEDS to be said. And f*ck anyone who has a problem with it. This is your space. Keep right on speaking and staying strong.

    Posted by: z. at December 19, 2003 10:33 AM

    "Water Torturer" That's so interesting. All these years I've thought of my ex as a narcissistic personality, with all that that entails but this seems to fit, as well. Maybe the two are connected in some way? Hmm.

    In any case, talk about those things that you're comfortable talking about here in this space and the hell with what anyone else thinks (or says) about it.

    Posted by: Kare at December 19, 2003 11:51 AM

    i don't know what i want to write. but i don't want to leave this post without writing something. i feel emotionally full. and again, i admire your ability to work this through. love mama.

    Posted by: angela at December 19, 2003 12:50 PM

    You are stunning.

    When I'm attacked, my verbal skills go down the toilet. Even weeks later, I find it difficult to say or write anything in response that's any more detailed than "you suck, I hurt, go away, yuck"

    Like Angela, I'm emotionally full. I need to process this all, and I don't know what to do with it.

    You rock.

    Posted by: Lisa at December 19, 2003 1:07 PM

    I could see so much of my own experiences in here. I always feel grateful that I had no children with the abusive ex because i'd have to deal with that on top of how he treated just me. ugh. I've been wanting to actually talk about my own experience on my blog, but feel unable to because people i know from real life who have decided they can still be friends with this abusive ex read it. I don't need him being pointed towards my own space. I don't know. Maybe I'll post on livejournal and lock the entry to keep some people out.

    Amen to everything you said. And really, anyone who can't respect personal stories or space should fuck off.

    Posted by: kerri at December 19, 2003 2:38 PM

    Wow! I read every word you wrote here about your abusive ex. And you did nothing? You were/are totally innocent? All the blame and guilt are his? That's ego talking babe. Nobody "owes" anybody anything. YOu got a lemon and sucked on it, you could have made lemonade. It is all just a matter of choice. YOU chose unwisely.

    The ego believes totally that it has done nothing while other's are doing things to them. Every event that happens to you is your own choosing, knowing this is the key to getting off the battlefield.

    Posted by: WHOATLEEDS at December 19, 2003 3:19 PM

    Um...if you really had read this (or any of the other stuff dru has written on the subject), you would see that she has taken a lot of responsibility for her side of things, probably more than her ex has a right to expect--and she admitted she sees herself in some of the descriptions of abusive behavior that she's been reading about. No one said "all the blame and guilt are his" or anything of the sort. But it's important to recognize abuse as what it is if you're going to learn from the experience of being with an abusive person.

    "Every event that happens to you is your own choosing"? Hooey. Putting aside all the obvious refutations of that statement (such as people who are the victims of random violent crime, who never chose such a fate) and sticking to the subject at hand, it's possible for almost anyone to find themselves in a relationship with someone who is abusive. Abusive people can be very good at hiding those tendencies until they get your guard down, for one thing. And since, as dru demonstrated nicely, we have all sorts of societal rationalizations in place to explain abuse away, often the abused person thinks it's all in their head until things get so bad that the problem is obviously real. What's a person supposed to do at that point if they are already in love with an abuser, or married to them, or co-parents, or otherwise in a position where it's difficult or impossible to disengage themselves? Get out of the relationship to whatever extent they can, you might say, and set careful boundaries with the abuser when it comes to things (like coparenting) that can't be avoided. Well, that's exactly what dru is trying to do--and, it seems to me, succeeding as much as is possible in such a difficult situation.

    I'd say you "chose" the "experience" of reading this blog, and maybe if you found this piece objectionable you should practice what you preach and move on. After all, there are enough voices out there working to deny and delegitimize the experiences of people who are abused without you adding to the chorus. That is, unless you have an ego investment here too. Babe.

    Posted by: susan at December 19, 2003 4:25 PM

    I'm only dignifying whoatleeds with a response because he/she is using a common tactic in diminishing and/or minimizing the experience of a person who is in an abusive relationship. It's this assumption that in order to make a complaint, I have to be perfect...or that if I make a complaint, I am implying that I am somehow perfect.

    I assure you, whoatleeds - and anyone else who might come here feeling like whoatleeds has a valid point - gold and silver coins do not fly from my anus when I bend over. However, there is a vast sea of difference between someone who makes mistakes in a relationship and someone who uses abusive tactics to control and manipulate another person.

    Thanks for giving me an idea about what to post next. Jackass.

    Posted by: drublood at December 19, 2003 6:35 PM

    Oh, and...to the rest of you - thanks. I felt pretty good about this post when I sent it, and I'm glad to see that I'm communicating clearly. It's sad that so many people can relate to this, but it's good that we are able to talk about it. I will try to respond to each of you privately. Thanks.

    Posted by: drublood at December 19, 2003 6:41 PM

    Dru, thank you so much for your sharing your personal story and posting about this book. I am going to read it next week. The little pieces you've put on here are so relevant to my life.

    I received the temporary custody/support order in the mail today and I must have read it 6 times so far.

    Here's a cheery note that will make you smile. Because he did not want to pay state guideline child support he requested that things remain as the status quo in the divorce complaint. Now that the temporary order is in effect granting joint legal custody I am legally bound to consult with him if I decide to STOP homeschooling. I could never have imagined the peace that came over me when I realized that today.

    Posted by: faithwages at December 19, 2003 10:47 PM

    Your ex sounds even creepier and meaner than I thought.

    If you don't know by now, there's no hope that you will ever know." he would say. And yet, he refused to leave the relationship because one day I "might straighten up and start acting right."

    What a monster! I'm soooo happy for you that he's out of the house.

    Does he go by the screen-name WHOATLEEDS? What an asshole.

    Posted by: ivyblogs at December 20, 2003 2:18 PM

    Needless to say, WHOATLEEDS does not speak for me. I wish there had been no disagreement. I am one to speak my mind, as you are. People of strong opinions are liable to do so. We had a spitting match, and as far as I'm concerned, it's over. My first post was not intended to be offensive, my later words were meant to be as offensive as I felt I had received. So be it, It's water under the bridge. No apology offered, none desired in return. I appreciate your sense of who you are, and I've enjoyed reading your blog. You have given me many things to think about.

    I wish you well this season, and hope you have a happy holiday.

    Posted by: subversity at December 21, 2003 1:19 AM

    Thank you so much for this post Dru. I have been MIA for awhile and always seem to pop back in at EXACTLY the time in my life when I need to read something like this.

    You are amazing mama!

    Posted by: skyra at December 21, 2003 10:14 AM

    Why, subversity, how easy that must be for you! How downright lovely! Waltz on in to someone else's profound pain, pick, bullshit, and criticize, and then cry 'no big deal' when you're shot down for being an inhumane pig!

    I wish declaring everything a 'no big deal' were so easy in postwar Iraq . . .

    Guess what? Even if it's no big deal for you, and you don't want an apology, you do not get to unilaterally declare that sentiment as everyone's outcome. I'm certain many abusers think that sarcasm, mockery, a black eye or broken rib are 'no big deal.' Would you excuse them so breezily?

    (Sorry if this was a bit to harsh, Dru. That made me terribly angry.)

    Posted by: garrity at December 23, 2003 12:46 PM

    I can't describe what an enormous relief it was to read this. That insidious mental abuse from my ex-bf lead to me a nervous breakdown. I used to think to myself "I wish he would hit me, because then I'd have a bruise to point to, and people would understand what is going on". But he would have never, ever hit me, because that was too obvious, and everyone would have known he was abusive then. Instead, he stand there with that smug look on his face, calmly telling me all the reasons why I was defective and insane. If I cried or got angry, he'd say "See? You are proving my point. You are emotionally unstable". If I didn't respond, he'd say "You are unable to communicate. You are emotionally crippled".

    It's been almost 10 years since I left him. I don't think I've ever met anyone in those 10-ish years that had a clue as to what he was like, or what I went through. So thanks for writing this, because I really, really, really needed to know there was some one out there who "got it".

    Posted by: arizabif at December 23, 2003 2:33 PM

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